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for paul ryan it's defending had his own record as well as mitt romney's record. they're different. as joe biden tries to remain gaffe-free and make up for the president's poor performance last week. and joining me now, democratic strategist and president of divine, and phil, republican consultant and president of new frontier strategy both whom have been debate preppers in the past. what was going through your mind when watching president obama last week? >> listen, i think as his campaign has conceded it was a tough night for the president and governor romney did well. what i was thinking they're going to have to pivot. we're at a pivot point in this campaign. a lot of the republicans who probably would have wound up with romney anyways have made the polls closer and the vice presidential debate will be an important one. >> and what would your advice be to joe biden in terms of being tougher but not too tough? what is the mix that he has to get through? he's got a pretty rich amount of material to go through because if he wants to go after the ryan budget cuts and medicare plan, n
for paul ryan it's defending had his own record as well as mitt romney's record. they're different. as joe biden tries to remain gaffe-free and make up for the president's poor performance last week. and joining me now, democratic strategist and president of divine, and phil, republican consultant and president of new frontier strategy both whom have been debate preppers in the past. what was going through your mind when watching president obama last week? >> listen, i think as his...
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paul ryan, bless his heart, has a harder time lying than mitt romney does. he actually believes in what he has to say which is a fault in some politicians but hopefully he will be able to talk about the issues if he accurately reflects the issues that he and mitt romney can agree on. at least up until recently i think that could be a win for democrats. >> doesn't that really put ryan in a bind, tad, where he has to try and defend the top of his ticket but at the same time protect his own future if, in fact, he's not elected vice president? >> yeah, i think it's very difficult for congressman ryan. he's going to have to lie about two sets of records, not just one. the truth is that the ryan plan, the proposal was being attacked before it was picked. after it was picked, romney affirmed that he would go along with it which includes turning medicare into a voucher program, cuts in education, cuts across the board. if ryan is going to run away from that, i think he's going to have a hard time. joe biden understands these policies. i think he's going to confront
paul ryan, bless his heart, has a harder time lying than mitt romney does. he actually believes in what he has to say which is a fault in some politicians but hopefully he will be able to talk about the issues if he accurately reflects the issues that he and mitt romney can agree on. at least up until recently i think that could be a win for democrats. >> doesn't that really put ryan in a bind, tad, where he has to try and defend the top of his ticket but at the same time protect his own...
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already you've got ann romney's latest comments and paul ryan yesterday basically make the assertion that either calling out quote/unquote lies as the president and supporters referred to comments made by ryan during his big speech at the rnc and comments of mitt romney as either unsportsmanlike or in ryan's case, a way to demoralize people because you have no other default argument here. they're trying to counter this. >> right. >> i think we have been challenged on this, as well. you know this. there's a difference between someone's opinion and whether or not someone says a factory closed when it was not. that is not up for opinion. >> right. well, look. this election is the sky's green collection. we have little leverage it feels like to try to set the record straight as fairly as possible and we try to do and everybody's got their own study. everybody's got their own set of facts this time around and, you know, frustrating for those of us trying to get it as close to the truth as you possibly can. >> we'll see vice president joe biden do at least if some of the situations pop up
already you've got ann romney's latest comments and paul ryan yesterday basically make the assertion that either calling out quote/unquote lies as the president and supporters referred to comments made by ryan during his big speech at the rnc and comments of mitt romney as either unsportsmanlike or in ryan's case, a way to demoralize people because you have no other default argument here. they're trying to counter this. >> right. >> i think we have been challenged on this, as well....
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that's what happened the middle of our day with ryan, when a pew research poll showed the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump ouof the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest numbers. not everyone is ready to believe. >> the pew research poll shows romney in front now. do you think that poll's accurate? >> probably as accurate as any of them out there. >> reporter: you don't think there's a difference? >> no. >> reporter: this woman had one thought she very much wanted to express. >> i think the only poll that's going to count is the one on november 6th. >> reporter: you can argue with what many people here are saying, but you can't argue with that. gary tuchman, cnn, rochester, michigan. >> she's right about that poll. michigan is tightening, you saw from the polling at the top. ohio is tightening too,
that's what happened the middle of our day with ryan, when a pew research poll showed the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump ouof the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest...
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the ryan campaign and romney campaign knows this is coming and looking at romney's performance, it was glib, superficially appealing. he was able to dance around not providing details so i don't know exactly how they do it. i just -- i have a kind of hunch that, you know, they'll find something that paul ryan can say that will, you know, that will get around the criticism that biden's going to come in with. >> on the lowering expectations front, the president came out said and he thinks joe biden is going to be terrific. surprisingly, they're not lowering expectations and i think trying to pump people up a little bit. you could not think of two different sort of political characters than joe biden and barack obama. obama's the deep thinker, the weary warrior. you have the sense in the first debate he didn't want to be there and shouldn't have to go through this. joe biden, on the other hand, i think he loves and embraces the political combat. i think he enjoys it and makes a big difference when you feel like the person on the stage is having fun. >> yeah. >> that makes a huge differenc
the ryan campaign and romney campaign knows this is coming and looking at romney's performance, it was glib, superficially appealing. he was able to dance around not providing details so i don't know exactly how they do it. i just -- i have a kind of hunch that, you know, they'll find something that paul ryan can say that will, you know, that will get around the criticism that biden's going to come in with. >> on the lowering expectations front, the president came out said and he thinks...
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so far the romney and ryan people have not been willing to stand up for the things that they have been espousing a long time. i think there's more pressure on paul ryan than vice president ryan. >> we will be watching your state tomorrow. thanks so much for coming on the program. >> thank you. >> let me bring susan back. you tweeted earlier today the vp debates usually don't matter. but is this one different? >> i think it is a little different. do i. you know, traditionally we pay a lot of attention to the debates. lloyd bentsen putting down dan quayle and became inaugurated as vice president that january. it was dan quayle. this time maybe a little different because this election so close. so newly close. because we have got what i have been calling momentum politics, momentum is on the republican side. can joe biden turn that around in the debate and set a better stage for the second presidential debate that we have next week in new york? >> momentum is so important. i think that -- you know, besides the fact you have two debaters who are both really pretty substantive guys, i mean,
so far the romney and ryan people have not been willing to stand up for the things that they have been espousing a long time. i think there's more pressure on paul ryan than vice president ryan. >> we will be watching your state tomorrow. thanks so much for coming on the program. >> thank you. >> let me bring susan back. you tweeted earlier today the vp debates usually don't matter. but is this one different? >> i think it is a little different. do i. you know,...
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and paul ryan have to put people back to work in northeast ohio and get thedefitnd dhi heanpl] itoiobt his pro-growth proposals to restore the american dream. martha: you can hear it. that is the push in ohio this week from the romney campaign, spending four out of five days in the buckeye lld on o t ek. state of ohio. you heard so much about this. there is a very good reason why ohio is such a battleground. on our map section what we've done and wi do for the next four weeks, we ttoutabaown t in tlineles considered too close to call. in the middle of all of this is the state of ohio here. put what if scenario into action here. if you put the surveys we've taken right here the present appears to have ttne19ralot w ohio? if we were to click on mitt romney here and give him 18 electoral votes in the buckeye state you see where his number jus to 209. you wonderwhats e gyhiot o asu f00 w toc and senator obama. it ohio it went democratic, went blue, a huge victory for the president then. but just yesterday he went back right here to the heart of the state, that is franklin county, cpita cit
and paul ryan have to put people back to work in northeast ohio and get thedefitnd dhi heanpl] itoiobt his pro-growth proposals to restore the american dream. martha: you can hear it. that is the push in ohio this week from the romney campaign, spending four out of five days in the buckeye lld on o t ek. state of ohio. you heard so much about this. there is a very good reason why ohio is such a battleground. on our map section what we've done and wi do for the next four weeks, we ttoutabaown t...
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even half as well as mitt romney, they are overestimated or underestimating congressman ryan, i would say if they think he will come out and just throw out a bunch of numbers and stats and not put any hard or skin in the game so to speak. he has won a congressional district because he can relate to people. i think we are going to see some of that behavior if that debate tomorrow night. >> there were critics from the female side of the aisle that there was no conversation, no debate, between mitt romney and president obama about a woman's right to choose. the obama campaign is accusing governor romney of kind of having an etch a sketch moment again about his position. his stance on this because of a recent interview. take a listen. >> there is no legislature with regards to abortion i'm familiar with that -- would become part of my agenda. >> that was with the des moines register. is the romney campaign -- i know that they are trying to walk back this comment as they often do because -- sfamt saying mitt romney is pro-life and will probably be a pro-life president. when they have mitt
even half as well as mitt romney, they are overestimated or underestimating congressman ryan, i would say if they think he will come out and just throw out a bunch of numbers and stats and not put any hard or skin in the game so to speak. he has won a congressional district because he can relate to people. i think we are going to see some of that behavior if that debate tomorrow night. >> there were critics from the female side of the aisle that there was no conversation, no debate,...
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we know paul ryan isn't the inexperienced debater romney makes him out to be. you know, why is the campaign, you know, kind of playing this game again? i mean, this is somebody who spent seven terms on congress. he knows what it is to speak in front of people and debate an issue. >> this is all about psychological warfare at this point. each camp is trying to psych out the other in terms of what the experience is, where they're going to head, what they're not going to say, what they're going to say, but, you know, mitt romney is almost right when he said that maybe paul debated in high school because he started his political career so young. he was 27, maybe 28 at the time wrish think we have some video. he did do a debate during his first congressional campaign back in 1998 when he beat the democrat lidia spotswood. there you see. it's a little grainy, old, but there you see a very young paul ryan having a debate, but to be fair, debating somebody in a congressional district in wisconsin is not even close to the same as debating on the vice presidential level
we know paul ryan isn't the inexperienced debater romney makes him out to be. you know, why is the campaign, you know, kind of playing this game again? i mean, this is somebody who spent seven terms on congress. he knows what it is to speak in front of people and debate an issue. >> this is all about psychological warfare at this point. each camp is trying to psych out the other in terms of what the experience is, where they're going to head, what they're not going to say, what they're...
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earlier i sat down once again with ann romney. here is what she had to say about her husband's running mate, paul ryan. >> i'm excited again for the american people to see him. they don't know him. he is such a great guy. he is so genuine. he is so ernest. he is so well-spoken. he so intelligent. knows his facts. it will be great for people to really get a chance to get to know him. martha: mrs. romney also had some choice words for the obama campaign and its accusation that governor romney had lied during the debate. we're going to show you what she said about that. that is coming up. we'll play the full interview in next hour of "america's newsroom". bill: looking forward to that, really. 10:15 live. new polling from the battleground state of nevada it shows a virtual tie. president up only a point 47-46% according to a survey of the "usa today poll" commissioned by las vegas review journal. four years ago president obama easily won the state by 12 percentage points. today nevada has highest unemployment rate in the nation that
earlier i sat down once again with ann romney. here is what she had to say about her husband's running mate, paul ryan. >> i'm excited again for the american people to see him. they don't know him. he is such a great guy. he is so genuine. he is so ernest. he is so well-spoken. he so intelligent. knows his facts. it will be great for people to really get a chance to get to know him. martha: mrs. romney also had some choice words for the obama campaign and its accusation that governor...
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host: how do romney and ryan respond to that? guest: they say that because of competition with the increased share of private plans, giving a set amount in check to beneficiaries, that they would be able to save money over the long term. it is very hard to say exactly what the details are right now, because we don't know exactly how it works. but paul ryan's plan, these changes don't have been for happen fordon't another 10 years. he would probably still confront this insolvency issue in 2016, were he to become president and were he to repeal affordable health care act. it would be a big thing for him to deal with halfway through his term. host: gloria, you are next. caller: i would like to talk about the medicare voucher program that you say is a premium support. my thought on this is that the cost of health care insurance is pretty steep. it averages about $800,000 to $100,000 a month for a person to get private health insurance. if they get this out for, you are starting off in all told, -- this voucher, you are starting off i
host: how do romney and ryan respond to that? guest: they say that because of competition with the increased share of private plans, giving a set amount in check to beneficiaries, that they would be able to save money over the long term. it is very hard to say exactly what the details are right now, because we don't know exactly how it works. but paul ryan's plan, these changes don't have been for happen fordon't another 10 years. he would probably still confront this insolvency issue in 2016,...
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if mitt romney loses, paul ryan is an early front-runner for republicans. if barack obama wins, joe biden is telling people yes, i might be getting up there in age, but i feel great. i might run. >> let's talk about joe biden for a minute. remember last time they said you don't want to come off as condescending to sarah palin or even sexist. does the same thing aplay here? obviously not the sexist part, but condescending to someone younger than him for a paul ryan who seems to be new? does that challenge exist in this particular debate? >> reporter: well, i think that challenge exists in every debate. certainly it was different to have, you know, you're having a man debating a woman. that's a different calculation. but you don't want to be smug in any debate. it was interesting, you know, a lot of people after the first presidential debate thought the president was disinterested. the president was detached. i was interviewing suburban women yesterday. one of them said, you know, mitt romney won on points, but i thought he was smug. i thought he was disrespe
if mitt romney loses, paul ryan is an early front-runner for republicans. if barack obama wins, joe biden is telling people yes, i might be getting up there in age, but i feel great. i might run. >> let's talk about joe biden for a minute. remember last time they said you don't want to come off as condescending to sarah palin or even sexist. does the same thing aplay here? obviously not the sexist part, but condescending to someone younger than him for a paul ryan who seems to be new?...
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ryan has this real numbers guy. this one who knows how this one will go. >> jan crawford, good to see you. republican strategist mike murphy is with us. he helped run mitt romney's successful campaign for governor of massachusetts. you saw jan lay out a number of those poll numbers. what's happening out there especially in the state of ohio where obama had opened up a double digit lead and now it's quite tight. >> after the debate, which was a great opportunity for romney to have an unfiltered communication people are taking a second look at him. all across the country you can debate how much and where. the numbers have lunched in romney's direction. romney has the momentum and i'm not sure big bird will stop him. >> at this point how critical is ohio given the republicans have to win ohio. >> if you can't win ohio, he can. he has to win a couple of states that are harder than ohio, maybe colorado but nevada, iowa and of course wisconsin. >> you got an unemployment rate in ohio well below average. >> he can't run th
ryan has this real numbers guy. this one who knows how this one will go. >> jan crawford, good to see you. republican strategist mike murphy is with us. he helped run mitt romney's successful campaign for governor of massachusetts. you saw jan lay out a number of those poll numbers. what's happening out there especially in the state of ohio where obama had opened up a double digit lead and now it's quite tight. >> after the debate, which was a great opportunity for romney to have an...
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>> i think we want vice president biden to hang paul ryan budget around his and governor romney's neck. that budget is terrible for the working middle class in this country. it voucherizes medicare, it slass medicaid, it cuts pell grants, it gives tax cuts to really really rich people. mitt romney called it a marvelus budget. i want the vice president to take that budget and literally drape it around paul ryan's neck. >> richard wolfe, there has been information in the polls this week that romney's campaign was going the other way. but when you look at the way it's lining up, it looks like very little movement. >> if history is any press tant, he's got fall bounce, now the debate is turning not towards the performance of the theatrics, but to the actual policies. what these presidents would look like. when you look at ohio, you're not just talking about any battle ground state. you're talking about a strongly manufacturing based economy that has done well. where the unemployment rate is below the national average, and the economic trend through this whole country is per septemberbly mo
>> i think we want vice president biden to hang paul ryan budget around his and governor romney's neck. that budget is terrible for the working middle class in this country. it voucherizes medicare, it slass medicaid, it cuts pell grants, it gives tax cuts to really really rich people. mitt romney called it a marvelus budget. i want the vice president to take that budget and literally drape it around paul ryan's neck. >> richard wolfe, there has been information in the polls this...
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the ryan budget would have, which he endorsed, mitt romney endorsed and put ryan on the ticket, would have tremendously slashing effect in government spending and social programs. it cuts taxes further. beyond the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. i think there's still a lot of back and forth flip-flopping whatever you want to call it strategic ambiguity what mitt romney is saying. host: let's go to stamford, connecticut,bob you're up next. caller: good morning. i'm an informed voter and i spent 30 plus years in the consulting industry and i don't know how to create jobs and people would have you believe is possible. there's a number of factors that led to the current condition and i don't hear anybody talking about what's going to be done to alleviate those factors. going to give you a couple examples. one is the banks. the availability of money. two, is the confidence in wall street. so many got burned, very few people private investors, want to take chance on investing money. three oil, the war in iraq, restricted the flow out of one of the major producers when congress petitioned for
the ryan budget would have, which he endorsed, mitt romney endorsed and put ryan on the ticket, would have tremendously slashing effect in government spending and social programs. it cuts taxes further. beyond the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. i think there's still a lot of back and forth flip-flopping whatever you want to call it strategic ambiguity what mitt romney is saying. host: let's go to stamford, connecticut,bob you're up next. caller: good morning. i'm an informed voter and i spent...
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i think he's going to have to be on his toes because my guess is you're going to see what mitt romney tried to do which is paul ryan, congressman ryan walk away from the positions that he's held during this campaign and try to give a much, much different and softer image for the american people. >> we'll all be watching. robert gibbs, thank you for your time. >> thanks, matt. >> a reminder, can you watch the vice presidential debate. that's tomorrow night, 9:00 eastern, 6:00 pacific right here on nbc. >>> now 11 after the hours. here's savannah. >>> matt, thank you. the parents of a missing colorado girl are speaking out for the first time since their daughter's miss appearance. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest on this story. miguel, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. federal, state and local authorities are all working this case as jessica parents speak out for the first time and a community comes together. >> let's have a moment of silence where we just keep our lights to the sky. >> reporter: at a park where she often played, more than 1,000 gathered to pray for je
i think he's going to have to be on his toes because my guess is you're going to see what mitt romney tried to do which is paul ryan, congressman ryan walk away from the positions that he's held during this campaign and try to give a much, much different and softer image for the american people. >> we'll all be watching. robert gibbs, thank you for your time. >> thanks, matt. >> a reminder, can you watch the vice presidential debate. that's tomorrow night, 9:00 eastern, 6:00...